Home Forums Legacy of ACOP 2.1 How Did the Pentecostal Movement Come to Canada?

  • VICTOR

    Member
    May 28, 2022 at 6:41 pm

    I believe there’s nothing wrong with being in order (or organized) because the God who called us is the God of order. But anything that is imbalanced leads to many problems.

    For example, I heard one pastor/leader say that worship ministry should have no restrictions–even the less talented or those who do not have a talent for singing should minister as worship leaders. But in his written church values, he reiterated the very idea of “excellence in everything,” so I was wondering if he truly understood his belief versus the church values, as he was contradicting himself upon declaring those two things. Some well-meaning believers use words and phrases loosely.

    Being organized should not hinder the church in spreading the gospel, doing the mission, and advancing God’s kingdom. Instead, it should catapult them into realizing what more could be done, and how could it be done effectively and efficiently, trusting that the Holy Spirit is the one (and should only be the one) leading and making things happen.

    Again, going back to the beginning of the lesson, understand that we are being inhabited and led by the Holy Spirit, and He will never cause us to draw our attention away from the center of everything–Jesus Christ. When “being organized” is drawing us away from Christ, then it isn’t Spirit-led. It could be personality-led, performance-led, or “the need to control/organize-led”. But when the God of order leads, everything is organized even in the midst of our human disorganization.

    Being balanced is the key!

  • John

    Member
    May 10, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    Early Pentecostals experienced resistance from their previous organized religions and therefore the idea of organization seemed as if it would quench the Spirit’s moving in individual lives. The late 1800’s saw the rise of modernism which many in main line denominations accepted liberal ideas such as Biblical criticism, doubts of the reliability of the gospels etc. Early Pentecostals followed the narrative of coming out to be separate from those who lost their first love.

  • Charla

    Member
    March 21, 2022 at 10:24 am

    The unorganized spread does not surprise me at all. As has already been mentioned in the discussion that pattern has been seen in movements since the early church in Acts. I think the resistance to organization was a natural part of the movement, people were trying not to hinder what they were experiencing in Holy Spirit and needed time to process what ministering as Pentecostals would look like. As the movement matured I think people realized that there was potential to reach more people through organizing. I think that although there can be complications in organizing, the encouragement and accountability was a healthy benefit of becoming connected to like-minded ministers.

    • ECO

      Administrator
      March 21, 2022 at 4:51 pm

      @smythc1 this is a great answer. Pentecostalism values the “prophethood of all believers” (everyone can hear from the Spirit), so the need for leadership and organization was not a high value in the early days of the movement. Rather, we can trust God to lead his church. This is sometimes referred to as a grassroots movement, but it may very well be part of the lifeblood of a vibrant pentecostal movement (Acts 2:18 – “even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy”).

  • Jenn

    Member
    March 20, 2022 at 11:09 am

    I think it was wise not to organize. Pentecostalism was new. There were no limits on what Holy Spirit would do. Making sure the motivations were coming from a place of seeking Jesus was important and could only happen with close fellowship with those around you. It was easier to simply follow the leading of the Spirit without an organized set of rules and ordinances. People would have been bogged down with debate, and this division would have hindered the spread of Pentecostalism even more, in my opinion.

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