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  • 1.4 Factors That Gave Rise to the Modern Pentecostal Movement

    Posted by ECO on August 16, 2021 at 10:49 am

    Choose ONE of these quotes to reflect on, with the questions provided, in a brief paragraph.

    1. William Seymour – “Don't tell people about tongues, tell them about Jesus." Why do you think Seymour said this? Do you agree or disagree? Is there ever a time to tell people about tongues?
    2. Pope Leo XIII, dedicating the 20th century to the Holy Spirit, on Jan 1, 1901, praying “Come, Holy Spirit.” What do you make of the Pope dedicating the 20th century to the Holy Spirit? Considering the numerous Holy Spirit-birthed movements of that century, is it relevant or does it seem more coincidental?
    Zach replied 1 month ago 39 Members · 40 Replies
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  • Zach

    Member
    December 18, 2024 at 7:51 pm

    William Seymour said don’t tell people about tongues but tell people about Jesus. I agree in what I believe he is saying, which of course is not that we never talk about tongues as that would not be biblical (part of 1 Corinthians does so, and so needs to be spoken about) but that the baptism in the Holy Spirit and the evidence of tongues in not just to be taught as an experience disconnected from Jesus, but is part of our relationship with Him. He is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit, and He does it so we can be empowered to be His witnesses. It would be at odds with the nature of the Holy Spirit in whom we are seeking to be immersed in, and the purpose for this immersion, to make this all about a phenomena and not the person the phenomena was to point to. Also as a matter of practicality, because it is Jesus who does the baptizing, if you seek Him and present Him as He is, it is impossible to ignore this feature of His work and ministry towards us (it must be denied or taught against, but can’t be ignored).

  • Anna

    Member
    November 15, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    In his comment, talking about Jesus not tongues, Seymour was pointing his people back to the source of the gift and not focussing merely on the gift itself. During a time of explosive power, it would also be very easy for onlookers to want to worship power of God rather than God Himself; forgetting that Jesus is at the centre of it all.

    I think a person would be far more effective in reaching the lost by telling them about Jesus and what He has done for them, then to merely talk to them about the gift of speaking in tongues. It is a gift afterall, something given BY God to His people in order to reach the lost…It is not the message of the gospel, but a tool to bring the message. The tongues had the power to bring the people to the revival, but hearing about Jesus has the power to change their lives. Also, if people were to ask about tongues, the answer should be: JESUS!

    Tongues is a sign for unbelievers that Jesus is who He says He is, that He has the power He says He has. They are not a sign of salvation and they are not mandatory. Believing in Jesus as saviour is mandatory for getting into heaven, therefore hearing about Jesus becomes of utmost importance.

  • Afraz

    Member
    October 30, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    1. William Seymour statement to pursue Jesus is relevant to God being the one that gives the gift of the Holy Spirit. Mark 16:17

  • Alissa Carlton

    Member
    October 19, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    1) I believe this was said as people often want to focus on and talk about the most sensational aspects of life, in this case, that would be the speaking in tounges that occurred. Although this was a significant event in these individuals’ personal spiritual journey, it would negate the source of this prayer. The point of the meetings was not to pursue signs and wonders, it was to pursue Jesus and the rest was simply just a sign he was present.

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